But my hope is, that if I show you enough liable evidence, then you will eventually change the out-put. :P, Jean can’t blink Superman out of existence. Jean Grey, of Marvel's mutant X-Men, and Raven, the half-demon member of DC's Teen Titans, are both exceptionally gifted superheroines with powers that err on the dark side. Heat vision could play a factor against just a regular telepath but against a telekinetic that can protect herself from the elements as well? But the issue sees one hero lead the charge in the fight back; Jean Grey. Willpower is key. I shouldn’t say literally since you never know, but I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that Superman is the strongest comic book character of all time. Battle SuperMan with fists and legs, that feat with Apocalypse should tell you all you need to know. Monitoring thought is different than telepathic assault. Warping someone straight to Heaven is a no go as well. When they are of equal size, she won’t be able to keep up with his speed or endure his power. 10. No phoenix and speed is equalized. 33 wins (51.6%) 0 (0%) 31 wins (48.4%) Superman Kal-El. While Wolverine might hold his own while fighting Superman physically, Professor X and Jean Grey -- even pre-Phoenix Jean Grey -- are ideally suited to fighting him telepathically. Even the likes of Thor, possessing all the might of the All-Father, has fallen before Knull. His are more physical and he has the speed to back it up. 9. Gosh, look at the votes!! Superman has tons of feats. Superman has tons of combat feats and they are better than astral feats or crossing dimension ones. Willpower doesn’t matter. The future still wouldn’t affect the fight and her loss would still count. Scott Summers/Cyclops & Jean Grey … It's like dreaming a lifetime when you fall asleep. She does not need to be. No he doesn’t I already proved you wrong with a scan. 0. Think again, Jean held the marvel 616 UNIVERSE (Notice BIGGER than SOLAR SYSTEMS) at the palm of her hands and altered its course. That’s like saying, no Jean can’t punch Superman, his willpower is too strong. And sups has. Superman And Spider-Man VS Martian Manhunter And Jean Grey In A MUGEN Match / Battle / Fight This video showcases Gameplay of Spider-Man The Superhero And Superman VS Martian Manhunter The Superhero And Jean Grey The Member Of The X-Men In A MUGEN Match / Battle / Fight Literally his body implodes. It seems like that is the entire bag of tricks you have for debates. I just went and voted for Superman so now he’s only down by a little over a hundred votes. Right, but that just wouldn’t fly. But till then, Superman and them are free to act. Trust me, Gladiator doesn’t mess around! even one time she saved prof xaviers life using her quick relfelxes . SuperMan never blew away a universe just by sneezing. I have nothing but respect for her, but you have to realize that a few good feats isn’t enough to stop Superman! I can't belive people are actualy defending her... Where are her feats with speed and reaction times on Superman level? He could be a million times stronger than the Hulk, and it still wouldn’t do anything. He still looks exactly the same, except maybe the newer version is a bit more clear. Yes you heard me, LITERALLY. How could manipulating timelines not help? PC SuperMan did. Um... That is exactly my point actually. How much faster than a normal human does she think? 5. You’re like “minus gladiator jean can’t beat him” and what happened bam, I showed you a scan of jean defeating gladiator…. Well, I tend to think of it all as PIS when their isn't an explanation that ties the behavior to the character. Jean is powerful, that's a fact (with and without the Phoenix) but there is NO possible way she is taking out the Man of Steel. They are just what Jean turned into after DP form, because sinister and Mastermind controlling her blah blah blah, long story short, she still has the same powers. Jean Grey is host to one of the most powerful eneties in the Marvel Universe….. This is her DEVOURING SM. Isn’t sneezing away a solar system an impressive feat? 2. She could destroy him even without the phoenix force. She is, after all, the Phoenix. Altering reality does not really help in a fight either. I don't know what Jean's best reaction feat is but I don't think it can stand up to Clark's speed. aka, PC. So yeah the feat you provided just makes superman look like a warm and fuzzy teddy bear against a cosmic entity. That only works at the speed of thought after all. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. She’ll just swat him and the fight would end. 7. We’ve never seen Jean Grey exhibit any good speed feats in combat. Perhaps I would feel differently if I had been more familiar with the classic series at the time, but it’s hard to see them as the same person. Phoenix for sure is on a Multiversal (bigger than Universal) scale; unlike Superman. Jean Elaine Grey is a Class Five mutant with immensely powerful telepathic and telekinetic abilities. Turn into DP form and crush him with sheer psychic willpower. Also I think there are a few examples of Superman resisting TP due to his kryptonian resistance and his torqasm vo or w/e that krryptonian mental martial arts is. Of course Jean has just as amazing feats. She has complete telekinetic control of everything at a subatomic level, she can just manipulate the atoms around her to slow down anything within her radius, and she would defeat superman before he thinks about it through her telepathy. (did this in DP form) In new x-men’s he bested the Shi’Ar in hand to hand, in Phoenix Endsong she destroyed their mothership with a flick of her wrist as white Phoenix of the crown. I think that would be too time consuming for Superman utilize effectively. No, she wasn’t wearing any red cloak and there weren’t any scars involved, and the guardians of the galaxy weren’t present. He still is a good guy who saves the Net and real world from threats. Her telekenesis is like a virtual grip and she can’t collapse something that is stronger than her will. Even if he were faster, I cannot see it being by much. It’s like MegaMan and Mega Man. I do know that the Guardians were present in some of the recent comics like with the Shiar though. Doesnt the OP say battle of telepathy? Oh and this is the current version of superman: Superman (Clark Kent) current versions…all dead: Jean Grey in her current form, White Phoenix of the Crown: And of course I know you don’t know what’s going on in those two scans because you don’t read comic books, let me explain, Jean has total telekinetic control of the marvel universe at the palm of her hands and through her telekinetic god-hood she warped reality. Well, I know that Gladiator basically admits that he fears Jean Grey there, but he does say that the fight is still unfinished. And why should I assume this species of telepaths are high order telepaths? Someone pointed out to me an explanation that I think sound much more plausible, that time may pass differently or feel different on the astral plane. 4. Jean Grey is tough in any form, but not tough enough for this round. jean on the other hand has at a few times manefested a fire bird effect even without the phoenix at times of pure rage. Bloodlust removes morals yes, but that does not always mean CIS. Jean will just erase him, the Phoenix can travel at unusually fast speeds a,d create warp holes to travel from one place in the universe to the other. The thing is that that is not a solid argument. Superman lives in some of the continuities. Back to 1. They’re no match for Jean grey as show once too many times. We have seen him blitz before but we have seen him use his strength more. Superman’s too fast for telepathy. This egg is invincible. Jean stopped an extraterrestrial bullet from killing Xavier how is that not a speed feat? But if you're saying the plot induces character induced stupidity, wouldn't we the CIS out of the debate as well because it was plot induced in the first place. And I will alway make counter arguments for your counter augments, and I know you’ll do the same. nvm read it wrong xD, i hate supes mainly because hes bs...but he would fly past jean and her skin would peel off. (They did not examine this to full extent in the death battle) He was re-made in the 40’s or 50’s and named Crisis SuperMan. Lol, I know that he’s the punching bag of the Shiar when it comes to fighting Jean Grey. She is very strong and she stood up to Gladiator, but Superman’s in a completely different league. Here is the full scan of that picture you posted, Jean killed herself the Shi’Ar have never defeated her, she killed herself…. Anyone can block a telepathic urge if they really want to. All she really needs is krypton too to weaken him, the Phoenix has shown no weaknesses, so yeah the 100% Phoenix, Jean Grey, as white Phoenix of the crown can easily erase superman from ever existing before he even existed as she has done so many times. 1. I'm glad we agree with that. So clearly he isn’t indestructible people have killed him easily in combat. Not Valid. Peter Parker/Spider-Man & Mary Jane Watson (Spider-Man (2002)) 5. You mean the Jean that is superior to Emma and arguably (depending on the writer) better than Xavier as well? Phoenix has better feats, no feat of his stands a chance against White Phoenix of the Crown, her feats are at a universal scale. Just because Superman will have no problem willing, does not mean he will be using his powers in the wisest ways, just with intent to kill. Because once the Entarans start using their telepathy to attack, their speed and sped up thoughts don't matter. Jean Grey isn’t getting past him and it’s all thanks to his power and speed. *Clutches chest and falls on ground* no! You could say the same about MegaMan. He made sure to bounce back from it. 9. #10. She has good travel feats, but she’s not impressive in actual combat while Superman has been shown to fight at actual FTL speeds. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I will admit that she could crush the Shiar with ease (minus Gladiator) when in her Phoenix Form. Future Jean was not present in that story. Summary. So yeah….superman doesn’t have any impressive feats. Wait... We all know that her speed is irrelevant and that Superman has been rocked by telepaths before but I need to concede? No phoenix and speed is equalized. Destroy the entire Multiverse (Was stated that she could do this in regular P form. She could have a win button in her hand, its not relevant. I don’t think that’s going to change anytime soon. Jean Grey’s feat is impressive, but nothing that would worry Superman. He would shoot his lasers, they would get halfway to Jean and boom, Multiverse destroyed. (Better psonic powers in DP form) The superman before that, was PRE Crisis. Speed is not the only factor to consider here. I think at least for Superman PIS and CIS kind of run together considering how much both come into play. Nearly 75% for Jean. See number 1. She does not need to be FTL in order to beat Superman. My arguments may not be that logical or concise, but they are effective. Superman is much stronger and faster than Jean. Jean grey can destroy planets with the phoenix force. @BMEZY: Well thank you for clarifying that with me. I’ve seen the Phoenix and Dark Phoenix Sagas in both the comics and the show. Superman And Spider-Man VS Blue Beetle And Jean Grey In A MUGEN Match / Battle / Fight This video showcases Gameplay of Spider-Man The Superhero And Superman VS Blue Beetle The Superhero And Jean Grey The Member Of The X-Men In A MUGEN Match / Battle / Fight Superman is dead. Nothing’s invincible though so I don’t think the Phoenix Egg would be able to hold up against Superman’s attacks. Well, I only do mass votes like that once in a while for the lolz. Why would they still be turned on for this fight? Look at how the Xmen handled her and how the Shiar took her down. and not a real fight? You don’t think Jean has a feat as impressive as that one? In her long comic career, Jean has been many things: Hero, goddess, villain, leader, and even dead. Think again, your superman feat is a cute Micky mouse ride compared to Jean, who had complete atomic control of the entire 616 universe at the palm of her hands and she healed it by altering its course-warping reality. BTW, I said perfect counter arguments. I didn’t expect you to go for that. Posted on July 10, 2012 by dreager1. #8. The instant that Superman wins, the match is recorded as a loss for her so it’s too late. he is stronger and faster then jean . See #1. Jean’s second victory over the Shi’Ar after her resurrection after she killed herself in the Dark Phoenix Saga: Jean Destroys the Shi’Ar’s mothership and a blackwhole, which fyi sucks things in at a faster pace than the speed of light…Jean Destroyed that with a flick of her wrist. And then scan posted in this thread that shows Superman can speed up his sense to match the Flash. 1. Jean Grey-Summers (born Jean Elaine Grey) is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics.The character has been known under the aliases Marvel Girl, Phoenix, and Dark Phoenix.Created by writer Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby, the character first appeared in The X-Men #1 (September 1963).. I think you are underestimating how truly fast is lightspeed. Erased out of existence. I can see why people might think that but I do not think so. Both are extremely powerful Marvel Multiverse entities, but I’d have to go with Jean. #7. It’s ironic because I did read the arc though. She would also not be able to make it so that he never existed because such a power isn’t really believable. Think again, Dark Phoenix destroyed a solar system killing 5 billion people like nothing. If Superman did win in any way, then destroy that future of reality and time travel back until she finds one that she wins in and stays in it. 6. Get it, I don’t think you will you aren’t smart enough. The white Phoenix abilities do not matter. She would destroy the entire Multiverse before SM had a chance to come up. He has never employed his speed to blitz the Martian or anything like that because they don't have that many fights at all, let alone on even ground. Jean: *removes all internal organ and severely damages arteries with a time stop* SM: Wait, where’s my heart? There is only one reason why superman is so crazy powerful: $ for DC. Superman wipes the floor with Jean Grey and has a toast with her corpse. She let herself be killed by him, but she never lost to him in battle. Yes, in DP form she can go SS+ Speed but Superman can speed blitz her by a mile. None of the telepaths that have worked Superman are close to light speed. I just don’t see Jean Grey winning since Superman has the massive speed advantage and a solid punch could end the fight. Project an image into his consciousness of him dying and make it stay there. X and Frost, but they exceed her her when it comes to skill/finesse (Emma) and overall experience (Xavier)..(which makes all the difference when dealing with telepathy) Emma has admitted twice that Jean was superior to her.. and Xavier has predicted that Jean will or has already exceeded him in power... she's always had access and the ability to tap to immense/unlimited psionic power in the expression of tp and tk due to her second mutation which is inheritedly connected to the phoenix force...this explains the mental blocks Pro. She has good travel feats while in the Phoenix Form, but she can’t fight at such a high speed. Your a fool Jean casually blinks Superman in and out of existence and Superman was being amped by a 3rd party when he sneezed out tha solar system nice try, Hey, insults only weaken your argument…. I see what you're saying with CIS and PIS that pretty much weighs Superman down all the time but doesn't Bloodlust nullify both of those? Gladiator is very powerful and he’s one of the few characters who could last a few seconds against Superman. This is validated by the scan of Superman, Flash, WW, and MM speeding up their thoughts to faster than those telepaths can monitor and then saying "We have exactly one second to come up with a plan before the Entarans retaliate." She’s a cosmic entity now, and she lives on in her cosmic form. He is still a netnavi. The problem is that Jean Grey’s feats sound a lot more impressive than they actually are. She has devoured a star on her DP form before and could do so again, killing billions of people. The point is that Phoenix would obliterate Superman into nothingness. Jean Grey a.k.a Phoenix Force a.k.a White Phoenix of the Crown is physically dead…she died in New X-Men #152, however, she evolved to become a cosmic entity. No phoenix and speed is equalized. Now, the three Superman moments were pretty sad for Superman, but even the best hero can lose to a gunner once in a while. What I want to know is if Superman has ever shown to be too fast for a high order psychic like Martian Manhunter. Destroying the solar system was great, but Superman could do that with a sneeze. Still, this did help her get two overturned matches so she is now 14-1. Remember when he kept up with the Flash and took down Bane in a single hit? Jean Grey won’t have time to do any of that because Superman will have already won the fight! If i think about it a bit, conversation would not take nearly as long if you bypass conveying and interpreting information and instead the conversators had essentially instant knowledge of what the other person thinks. He would have definitely put up an admirable fight and that’s why we can’t count him out so quickly. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Still, that’s a lot of power and yet..I don’t think it would help much in combat. Trust me, the votes are more lopsided than they look since 90% of Superman’s votes came from me! She has total telekinetic control of everything via atomically manipulation. But how do we know that they could react dynamically to necessary changes and attack or defend accordingly? The Phoenix Force…. Think about it, Superman even renounced his Americanship to show the world how tough he is. Have you SEEN what Jean can do in the comics? Jean grey is far beyond superman’s league. I never liked Supes either, but unfortunately he would beat Grey here like a Texan wife. The Shi’Ar never took her down. Again people now you’re full of crap which is why no one sides with you as the polls show. Superman is close to a god level and all the de power and stuff. But he will still be limited by his intelligence and experience. Before superman even knows his atoms will be arranged differently, or she’ll manipulate atoms in a way to slow down the time surrounding her. @Erik: Superman can easily take her out before Jean can do anything to him, and I can't imagine someone like Jean (especially without Phoenix) mindraping a mind like Superman, maybe Pro X or Emma but NOT Jean. She is the strongest mutant alive, OMEGA-C5. Time Travel doesn’t work very well here since you can’t warp to before the fight. Must I go on? Well, she kinda sorta won there, but it was more of a surprise hit. So many late eps, that my sense of punctuality has evaporated-If you really like the show, drop me a rating on Podchaser! if Jean could think at the speed of light she'd be a genius far beyond Xavier..and of course this is Jean, not Phoenix. I think it’s still safe to say that Superman wins. That’s true, but the original Mega Man isn’t even a netnavi. 1. After Jean put down Gladiator, he got up and fully charged at her and she charged back at him: After that Gladiator fell hard onto the ground barely being able to get up…Jean was fine. Her abilities are definitely impressive to be sure and I can’t wait to read those issues when I can get ahold of the trade. Interesting fight, I’ve seen this and talked about this before, but in the end it’s pretty clear who wins. She is the strongest mutant alive, OMEGA-C5. The fight starts off on the Great Wall Of China. This isn’t a Jean throwing flames all over SM. She can’t just shrink him along with the universe due to the nature of the fight and how powerful he is. You don’t think Jean has such a feat? He can still sneeze a few planets away to delay Jean’s plans ð. @Erik: Bloodlusted versions of superman seem to like the Heat Vision and that would end the fight pretty instantly, but it's not like blitzing was ever out of character before, it just usually requires that Superman have enough knowledge of the character to warrant it. Contrary to popular belief, Superman wins, on the grounds that he can move faster than Jean can think, and therefore mindrape. The Guardians were right there…in the scans that you showed. Remember when he bounced back from his loss against Cheetah? First I actually once used one an example where Martian, WW, Supes, Flash, Plastic man and Kyle rayner have a telepathic conferenc in the martians mind in the blink of an eye to show that J'onn could somehow speed up the others' mental processes. i mean lets compare tem in more then just power . She can definitely still be hurt by Superman. Superman & Wonder Woman vs Cyclops & Jean Grey. Jean is not fighting here, she is a STATUE. Manipulating the timelines won’t really help in this match and she has no durability feats to suggest that she could endure a punch from Superman. Much faster than the speed of light, or any superman feat. I’m pretty sure I remember the future Jean Grey having a cloak, but I didn’t read the arc so I wouldn’t know. 8. Jean Grey was defeated by the X-Men before including Professor X and the best I’ve seen her do is destroy cities and turn people to ash. She is still not as powerful as the Phoenix Force however, one of marvel’s cosmic gods, and even then Superman has beaten people much stronger than the Phoenix Force, and he even lifted an infinity paged book, which is something neither Jean Grey or the Phoenix Force can do. Destroying one’s self because of too much power is definitely a sad way to go. Superman & Wonder Woman vs Cyclops & Jean Grey. im not saying jin will win but im saying is that jean has been known to stop firing wepons that were fired at her or somone leseo n occation. Superman’s will power is strong enough to stop that Superman is just too powerful. It never gets old I’ll admit, but she only got a good hit in, I didn’t see him losing consciousness. But luckily for Jean she still lives on as a cosmic entity in her 616 version and she’s fully merged with the phoenix force. Jean Grey is a pretty powerful telepath and in Phoenix Force is also deadly, but she’s up against the Man of Steel! For example, Jean is not earring cloak, and the outfit she’s wearing is that of Xorn’s, and that doesn’t make your argument valid in anyway, because your point is beside the point (beside the point fallacy). Literally. Superman packs a punch himself and he could probably hold the universe if he ever grew to that size. Derp we all know that, just conceded she loses due to speed blitz and stop embarrassing yourself. 140K. So what about “bounding back” Jean has done that literally about 20-30 times in many continuities and like more than 15 times in the main continuity. You’re just a fanboy refusing to see reality and you create arguments. Look…I have nothing against good ole Jean Grey, but she’s just not ready to take down Superman. @torzone: If I'm not mistaken, Jean trumps the both of them when it comes to raw psionic power..she's a naturally more gifted and talented psi than Pro. Reviews: 0. Being a cosmic entity won’t really be enough to slow him down this time. Raven, meanwhile, possesses the ability to draw upon the demonic energy of Trigon that could potentially destroy the world. A cosmic being is far above a mere extraterrestrial like superman, she’s way above his level of comprehension she’ll just erase him from ever existing before he existed…. That’s not bad if you really think about it. Not only is her character older than Quentin in the Marvel Universe, but Jean has a much more extensive comic book history than he does as well. He’s ready for round 2! Literally devouring him into her soul, along with an entire Solar System. She then want back in time, and did different things therefore completely changing the course of the Multiverse. Why would the superspeed planing and execution be necessary if the En'taran's could react? i mean when jean attacks ppl with molecular manipulation. Supes would kil grey before she notices what's up. Superman vs Jean Grey. I make the plays! @Marluxia87: does she react at lightspeed? At the most, that would cause a tie since they would both possibly die. Wiki Points. You don’t think Jean can match that feat? He is massively FTL and his attacks have a lot of power. See above 6 Jean Grey has a lot of insane feats, but they are really all psychic or abstract. His mind’s defenses are just too good. I’ll add the original 6 in first since I must have missed it. @Erik: You're arguing with the BIGGEST Jean Grey fan of all Time DUDE: Unless you can give me some feats of Jean being superior to Emma and/or Pro X without the Phoenix then I will believe you. Think of it like Batman vs Bane in the film. Don't use words like that in the battle forums to signify physical dominance of a male over a female. Their would be no limits if characters could just make new futures to occur. The guardians were not present with future Jean grey, they were only present during “The Trial of Jean Grey”. His mental resistance isn't very consistant, but it should at least give him enough time to incinerate the one messing with his head(Bloodlusted of course). See number 1 and also i would like to comment in earlier comics she has shown remarcable reflexes with and without the phoenix force. Think of it as a friendly tournament and when you lose, it’s too late to get back. Superman could be able to tank her flames and survive such an attack Superman is dead….he’s buried six feet under and exists in no other way but buried in the ground. So powerful that she killed herself when she overloaded herself with her raw power. I’m in America though, not England! I think that Gladiator may have the slight edge against Jean Grey, but it’s just because he’s a total combat type. I could be misinterpreting the concepts though. So yeah, that’s way cooler and more powerful than a dead man like clark kent. 12.7k Followers, 166 Following, 2,306 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Iconos Mag (@iconosim) All these reasons that I stated are valid, and she has done so much, unless you can find perfect counter arguments for each of my reasons, I’m staying strong with Grey. #6. Jean Grey does have speed feats FYI, again an example would be when she stopped an extraterrestrial bullet from hitting Xavier, and in an alternate universe she destroyed all of the universe, everyone, including quicksilver, and everyone who can run. He’s built for fighting and he could event take on Thanos and Black Bolt. 2. Jean is well-known for her cosmic powers derived from the Phoenix Force. 6. Superman & Wonder Woman vs Cyclops & Jean Grey. Team Superman (DCEU) vs Team Jean Grey (FOX) # Team Superman (DCEU) the only charachters from those battles i know much about are superman jean grey … I don’t think that Jean Grey can match that feat. superman is generaly msarter then jean . so he lobotomizes her then sodomizes her when he takes advantage of her after. That would spell bad news for Jean Grey. His strength wouldn’t help him if his body collapses in itself. What I want to know is if Superman has ever shown to be too fast for a high order psychic like Martian Manhunter. Superman has basically surpassed the gods of DC at this point and his power is without limit. Superman is likely on a universal scale as well. #2. Jean will erase superman from ever having existed…..Superman doesn’t have any greater feats, especially none beyond White Phoenix of the Crown’s feats. Abstracts are always weaker than physical beings. Bane won the first round, but I would argue that Batman should have won. If she just envelops the solar system with a wave that converts it all into heat, it just wouldn’t work on Superman. His name is still MegaMan, no matter how you spell it. It is just my epic opinion that he is stronger than he looks. If she turns into a massive size to do this, Superman can just burst out of her. She was totally wearing a cloak because I remember the mask. Don’t base a win/lose on your unsupported opinion, actually let me get more scans to prove that Jean Grey owned him over and over again…. Thus, it's faster. And people vote phoenix so phoenix the omega level mutant and the most powerful xmen wins! D: I’m just proving you wrong over and over again. That’s still a Great record. SM: I’m to strong for you! The fact that telepaths haven't had problems with Superman's speed in the past probably just means he wasn't speedblitzing them before they could use their power. Physicality is invalidated in the cosmic abstract world. ð. The Phoenix force hasn’t lost to anything….Jean merged with it. We have seen lesser telepaths have entire conversations in between the ticks of a second in Marvel. Superman doesn’t have any feats at are at a cosmic level like Jean, Jean is the Phoenix force and the force is her. And again they’re just amazed because this version of Jean from an alternate universe that was following the same continuity as that of the 616 universe, unlocked a power no one ever saw before. I’m very familiar with the feats from both fighters. I’m renouncing to mine too someday. Even if you decide not to do this, still Jean wins against both forms. Jean Grey is impressive and she’s done a lot, but those feats aren’t terribly impressive combat wise. Jean has way more power and speed than Superman which is why she takes this easily by far. Oh, and that movie feat you posted doesn’t count because that is not a possibility with the comic book version of Jean Grey from the 616 universe. I’m still a Marvel genius as well as a DC one.